INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the September 29, 2005 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Brian Carpenter / IBM Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / IAB Marshall Eubanks / MultiCast Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Sam Hartman / MIT Scott Hollenbeck / Verisign Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Shinkuro, Inc. Dave Meyer / Cisco/University of Oregon (IAB Liaison) Ray Pelletier / ISOC Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / RFC Editor Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Mark Townsley / Cisco Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / Nokia Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS --------------------------------- Barbara Roseman / ICANN (IANA) Nicholas Staff / IndyMac Bank MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the September 15, 2005 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives 1.2 Documents Approved since the September 15, 2005 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-iab-iesg-iaoc-selection-03.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-amrwbplus-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-framing-contrans-06.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-11.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-fr-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-l2tpext-pwe3-hdlc-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-15.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-nntpext-authinfo-10.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-nntpext-tls-nntp-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pwe3-control-protocol-17.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-secsh-newmodes-05.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-05.txt (Informational) o draft-garcia-sipping-poc-isb-am-04.txt (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Sam Hartman to assemble WGChairs discussion of proposal to announce internet drafts when they become WG items for re-review. NEW: o Sam Hartman to draft a message to IANA appointing Ken Raeburn as the IANA Expert for RFC 3961. He will send the message to the Secretariat, and the Secretariat will forward the message to IANA with a copy to the IESG. o Brian Carpenter to send the summary of the expertise desired of the candidates selected for open IESG positions, including the ADs for the new RAI Area, to the Secretariat. The IETF Executive Director will forward the summary to the NomCom. o Russ Housley to prepare a message to the IETF Announcement List rescinding the approval of draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04. The Secretariat will send the message to the list on behalf of the IESG with a copy to the RFC Editor. 1.4 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-l3vpn-bgp-ipv6-07.txt - 1 of 9 BGP-MPLS IP VPN extension for IPv6 VPN (Proposed Standard) Token: Mark Townsley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alex Zinin.* o draft-ietf-ipoib-dhcp-over-infiniband-10.txt - 2 of 9 DHCP over InfiniBand (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-idr-rfc2796bis-01.txt - 3 of 9 BGP Route Reflection - An Alternative to Full Mesh IBGP (Draft Standard) Token: Bill Fenner The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Brian Carpenter, Sam Hartman, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-12.txt - 4 of 9 IRIS - An Address Registry (areg) Type for the Internet Registry Information Service (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Brian Carpenter, Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, and Allison Mankin.* o draft-ietf-l3vpn-rt-constrain-02.txt - 5 of 9 Constrained VPN Route Distribution (Proposed Standard) Token: Mark Townsley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Alex Zinin.* o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 9 - draft-ietf-sipping-reason-header-for-preemption-04.txt Extending the Session Initiation Protocol Reason Header for Preemption Events (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-sip-resource-priority-10.txt Communications Resource Priority for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Allison Mankin. o draft-ietf-bridge-ext-v2-07.txt - 7 of 9 Definitions of Managed Objects for Bridges with Traffic Classes, Multicast Filtering and Virtual LAN Extensions (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Bert Wijnen. o draft-ietf-ldapbis-bcp64-05.txt - 8 of 9 IANA Considerations for LDAP (BCP) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bill Fenner, Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-rohc-rfc3242bis-01.txt - 9 of 9 RObust Header Compression (ROHC): A Link-Layer Assisted Profile for IP/UDP/RTP (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Allison Mankin. 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-agent-ipsec-02.txt - 1 of 2 Authentication of DHCP Relay Agent Options Using IPsec (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-dhc-3315id-for-v4-05.txt - 2 of 2 Node-Specific Client Identifiers for DHCPv4 (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-gray-rfc1888bis-02.txt - 1 of 2 Internet Code Point Assignments for NSAP Addresses (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, and Allison Mankin.* o draft-carpenter-bcp101-update-02.txt - 2 of 2 BCP101 Update for IPR Trust (BCP) Token: Bert Wijnen Brian Carpenter formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-opes-smtp-use-cases-03.txt - 1 of 3 OPES SMTP Use Cases (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Sam Hartman and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-secsh-publickeyfile-09.txt - 2 of 3 SSH Public Key File Format (Informational) Token: Sam Hartman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Scott Hollenbeck and Russ Housley.* o draft-iab-ieee-802-rel-01.txt - 3 of 3 The IEEE 802/IETF Relationship (Informational) Token: Bert Wijnen Brian Carpenter formally recused himself from the discussion. The IESG evaluated the document and has no objection to the IAB submitting it to the RFC Editor for publication. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-rharrison-lburp-04.txt - 1 of 4 LDAP Bulk Update/Replication Protocol (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o Three-document ballot: - 2 of 4 - draft-nguyen-ospf-lls-05.txt OSPF Link-local Signaling (Experimental) - draft-nguyen-ospf-oob-resync-05.txt OSPF Out-of-band LSDB resynchronization (Informational) - draft-nguyen-ospf-restart-05.txt OSPF Restart Signaling (Informational) Token: Bill Fenner Alex Zinin formally recused himself from the discussion. The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* o draft-maino-fcsp-02.txt - 3 of 4 Use of IKEv2 in The Fibre Channel Security Association Management Protocol (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-smith-oma-urn-00.txt - 4 of 4 A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Widget Description Exchange Service (widex) - 1 of 2 Token: Scott Hollenbeck The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (10/13/2005). o Lightweight Reachability softWires (ltr) - 2 of 2 Token: Mark Townsley The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending updated text to the charter from Mark Townsley. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (10/13/2005). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Ad-Hoc Network Autoconfiguration (autoconf) - 1 of 2 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to the charter to be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Mobile Nodes and Multiple Interfaces in IPv6 (monami6) - 2 of 2 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. IAB News We Can Use 6. Management Issues 6.1 Appointing RFC 3961 IANA expert (Sam Hartman) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken Raeburn as the IANA Expert for RFC 3961. Action item: Sam Hartman will draft the message to IANA appointing Ken Raeburn as the IANA Expert for RFC 3961, and will send the message to the Secretariat. The ecretariat will forward the message to IANA with a copy to the IESG. 6.2 Request to remove Dean Anderson's posting privileges to the IETF & dnsop mail lists (David Kessens) The management issue was discussed. The IESG received a request from Dave Crocker to take action under RFC 3683 against Dean Anderson. David Kessens will shepherd this request. The IESG noted that individual WG Chairs have the right to suspend posting rights under RFC 3934. 6.3 Discuss and potentially approve RAI area (Ted Hardie) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved, via an override vote, the formation of the Real-Time Applications and Infrastructure (RAI) Area. David Kessens voted against the creation of this new area because he has serious concerns that the current IESG is already too large to operate efficiently. He felt that the IESG should have studied possible alternatives that would have no need for additional ADs. Brian Carpenter stated that the IESG had to decide immediately due to the NomCom schedule but that we should indeed study organizational and operational steps to improve IESG efficiency, with the aim of finalizing changes in an IESG Retreat next spring. 6.4 RAI and message to NomCom (Brian Carpenter) The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed on the text of the summary for the NomCom regarding the expertise desired of the candidates selected for open IESG positions. Action item: Brian Carpenter will send the summary of the expertise desired of the candidates selected for open IESG positions, including the ADs for the new RAI Area, to the Secretariat. The IETF Executive Director will forward the summary to the NomCom. 6.5 Pull draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04 from RFC Editor's Queue (Russ Housley) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved pulling draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04 from the RFC Editor's Queue. Action item: Russ Housley will prepare a message to the IETF Announcement List rescinding the approval of draft-hoffman-rfc3664bis-04. The Secretariat will send the message to the list on behalf of the IESG with a copy to the RFC Editor. 7. Working Group News We Can Use ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for detailson documents that are under discussion by the IESG.